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Logan Sekulow: It's 2020 all over again, folks. Well, hopefully not. 2020 went kind of south. Maybe it's not 2020 all over again. I'm Logan Sekulow, Will Haynes in studio. Mike Pompeo is joining us a little bit later. The breaking news today is that 26 articles of impeachment have been filed against President Trump. We'll break down what those are and what the reality of the situation is. We'll also look at what this means heading into a midterm election in a few months. What could it actually mean if Republicans lose control of the House or the Senate? We're going to break down the best and worst-case scenarios and go through these vague 26 articles of impeachment. Will, how did we get here?
Will Haynes: This is Congressman Steve Cohen of Tennessee's 9th Congressional District, which is soon to be no more. He will be losing his seat in Congress because of redistricting in the state. He was the Democrat congressman for the Memphis area of Tennessee, a long-term congressman. Here is a quote from his statement after introducing these 26 articles of impeachment. He said, "Trump is clearly the most impeachable president our country has ever endured." That is a great line because what kind of scale do you have? Like George Washington was not as impeachable, but this guy is the most impeachable.
Logan Sekulow: I like that they're even thinking about that. There's a scale of impeachability. That's like what you get in your yearbook or a side award at a beauty pageant. "I'm sorry, we have Miss Congeniality, but we have Most Impeachable over here." We know Trump loves a good beauty pageant. Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. I want to break down some of these. The first one is just straight-up undermining democracy. Let's start there. If that's your Article 1 of the 26 articles, what do you think? Give me a call. I'm going to break them all down. Number one is the generic undermining democracy and sowing doubt at elections. Then we'll break it all down from there. Some of them are very specific and some are so annoyingly generic. Again, you don't want to laugh all of this off because they have been successful in this before. Obviously, they were not able to remove President Trump from office. My father and brother were involved very much in that situation in 2020. However, it does take a lot of time and resources. You don't want to go through it. It's not like this is a show when an actual impeachment trial takes place. We know there are real consequences coming forward in this midterm election. I want to hear from you about that at 1-800-684-3110. The ACLJ obviously defends a lot. Right now, we are trying to activate you. It's a Friday, always good to head into a weekend with a whole new group of ACLJ Champions. I'm going to ask you, if you have not yet, maybe you're a one-time donor. Maybe you've given before and I appreciate that so much. 99% of those who donate give one or two times a year. Most people do not donate, but if you are one of the donors, I thank you. A very small, select group of you have become ACLJ Champions over the last few years. These are people who set up a monthly donation. They want to create a baseline for the ACLJ to keep going. Because of that support, the ACLJ never has to bill a legal client. We never have to charge you for this show. There are no paywalls on our website. I know you hear me say it a lot, but it is true. I'm encouraging you today to go to aclj.org/champions or just scan that QR code you see on the screen right now. Do it today. Become a champion. There's no limit. Five dollars is the lowest, and that's just because of processing fees. So, five dollars and up a month, become an ACLJ Champion today. We would really appreciate it. Phone lines are open. We're going to break down all these articles of impeachment when we get back after this very short break.
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Logan Sekulow: Welcome back. Are you ready to walk through these 26 articles of impeachment? Do we do them in order or by our favorites? Will, I know you've got some top-tier ones because some of them are just generic. I think we can rock through them, but of course, Article Number 1 is the most generic. If you say President Trump is the most impeachable president, I understand your first one is just generic undermining democracy.
Will Haynes: Well, these are the categories. Then there are three abuses of power after that and then violation of oath. The first thing is the category and then the stipulation underneath the category. Number 19 is specifically attacks on a free press. The specific is banishing reporters from the White House for disfavored coverage. This is a recent event that he's able to amend this entire list of 26. It was 25 just a few days ago and he was just now ready to drop them.
Logan Sekulow: 25 is cleaner. I think you're probably right. However, you also decided that Logan's going to need to be able to read Roman numerals. You guys gave me 26 Roman numerals.
Will Haynes: Not us, actually. That is the esteemed congressman himself.
Logan Sekulow: You couldn't have told the chatbot to turn this into normal bullet points with numbers? Instead, I'm going to have to go in order because I'm not sure if I know what some of these are.
Will Haynes: It did take me a minute when I saw XIX for number 19. I'm like, what is this? This is like the Super Bowl we have to deal with now. I give up on that. My son reads the history of football and he has this football encyclopedia. It'll be like the Cowboys won X Super Bowl. It wasn't X, that would be 10. I go, man, that was so long ago. I don't know these Roman numerals. I just say they won the Super Bowl at some point in time.
Logan Sekulow: That's why WrestleMania eventually abandoned the Roman numerals. They said they weren't going to do this to their audience. Let's go through some of them. Undermining democracy is number one. Article 2 is abuse of power: waging war on Iran without congressional approval. By the way, if one of these spikes your interest, give me a call. We've got a few lines still open at 1-800-684-3110. Article 3: abuse of power. I must say, this is one that's interesting because I don't feel like we hear about it much. After the war in Iraq started, I feel like we kind of forgot about Venezuela and Maduro. That whole thing kind of went away. Obviously, it's still very active and we have had great success there. Article 3 is abuse of power regarding extrajudicial killings in international waters of Venezuela. This was like the boat bomb.
Will Haynes: I have a question about this one. Maybe you can clear this up because he says "extrajudicial killings in international waters of Venezuela." Were they extrajudicial killings of Venezuela in international waters? Because if it were international waters, it's not Venezuelan waters. You see what I'm getting here. They had time to amend the list but didn't correct their grammar here.
Logan Sekulow: The grammar police are coming at you. Number 4: abuse of power deploying military forces against United States cities. I assume that is when they start the crime raids. We're going to make sure people aren't getting killed on the streets of Washington, D.C.
Will Haynes: And they sent the National Guard. Specifically, Memphis, remember? Actually, the Governor of Tennessee, Governor Lee, partnered with the President and sent the Tennessee National Guard to Memphis. This would have been his district. The congressman that put this forward is the Memphis district congressman. Currently, he will be out of a job in January of 2027. That's due to the redistricting. They kind of split up that area and I don't even think he attempted to run for one of the districts that he now would have been able to represent.
Logan Sekulow: This is kind of a last-ditch effort to try to do something at least with your career. I love Memphis, Tennessee, but I think it desperately needed some love and help. I think there's some controversy surrounding sending the National Guard. We can have that debate and also acknowledge that these cities needed a lot of help. Chicago, Memphis, we don't live that far, a few hours from Memphis, Tennessee. We used to go there multiple times a year. It's always fun and I feel like in more recent years, we've scaled that back, especially with children, because it has become a more dangerous area. It used to be that the tourist areas were fine and then it started to get worse and worse. Unfortunately, a city that I really love, much like a lot of these, has issues. I'm not sitting there bashing any city, but there are plenty of cities with a lot of culture, a lot of art, Memphis, New York, Los Angeles, that I love. Sadly, we've seen them overrun with crime and destruction. Of course, going after President Trump for doing something about that. Which Roman numeral were we on here?
Will Haynes: That was specifically number 4.
Logan Sekulow: This one's interesting. It went to the Supreme Court. We can debate this a little bit, and that was the birthright citizenship executive order: violation of oath.
Will Haynes: This is what's interesting. The separation of powers worked for his desired outcome, the congressman's outcome here. President Trump lost. How can you impeach someone for doing an executive order that the correct process of the separation of powers played out and was overturned? It's not as if he's saying, "No, still, you have no citizenship." Just because he had the idea. That's really what you're saying, a thought crime essentially. Then you can be impeached for coming up with a new policy. That is 100% what they're doing. If you are a conservative president, if you are President Trump in this point, your ideas and your policy are impeachable. That's where it goes back to his line of saying he's the most impeachable president our country has ever endured. That's because you dislike him the most. That's the only real rationale there.
Logan Sekulow: That's five. We made it through the first five. Now I'm going to take a call. I want to actually move this along. Let's go to Warren, calling in on Line 1, who is an ACLJ Champion. I don't want him waiting too long. Go ahead, Warren.
Warren: Appreciate you guys very much. It's laughable when these guys bring these articles of impeachment with this stupid list. But like we were saying, we knew it was coming. They talk about disenfranchising voters and they want to put their foot on the scales again right before the midterms by bringing about a ridiculous impeachment that they know won't go forward.
Logan Sekulow: Warren, here's one thing I have to say about this. I think the congressman knows it's not going to go anywhere because he won't be in Congress. If the House goes back to the Democrats, he will no longer be a congressman. He's trying to get his last little moment in the sun by introducing these before the midterms, get a headline, and then he will fade away as a member of Congress. This also tells you something about the Democrat brand being in shambles and that they are having a lot of infighting. That doesn't mean they're not necessarily going to win and win big in many places in the midterms. Trump infiltrated your brain right there, Will.
Will Haynes: A little bit. It's because I've been reading these impeachment articles. Winning big is what he has done. Really, you have two factions. There's a fork in the road for Democrats right now. You have the DSA faction and you have the TDS faction. This is where those that are looking ahead, even if the policies aren't something that many people agree with or that the leadership agrees with, the leadership can't get over President Trump. They can't get over their own disdain for him and say he's the most impeachable president ever. What are you seeing? You're seeing those old-guard Democrats, the ones that are of that faction, are the ones losing because the DSA faction of the Democrat Party is moving beyond Trump. They aren't making everything about him. They are making it about policies that could be very dangerous to the American people, but that's what's starting to win. Looking beyond President Trump. Those that haven't, like Congressman Cohen here, didn't have an opportunity to look at a different district and say maybe I can win here even in a primary. I think that should tell you a lot about the two factions. The one that's winning isn't necessarily better for the American people.
Logan Sekulow: I have a question for you. We've got a minute and a half left until we go to a break here. When we get back, Mike Pompeo's going to be joining us. We're going to be talking about a bit of what's happening with the UN General Assembly happening right now. You have the meetings between President Trump and Xi Jinping, the head of China. What does that look like? What can we accomplish with these meetings with Xi Jinping? Again, we'll look at what's going on with the UN situation, whether that is how the Iran delegation has been working. There's a lot to break down. We have some interesting videos to show you. Do you want me to lead you through the rest of these articles of impeachment? We've got 20 more to go or 19 more to go. I'm going to leave it in the hands of the audience. Maybe we can throw up a poll. But we can put it in the chat. Do you want me to keep doing this or are you bored after the first five? I'm okay. You're not going to hurt my feelings. What do you think? When we get back, do you want me to keep going through this? Let me know in the chat. If you have a question or comment related to this and even what impeachment looks like when you are heading out of a midterm election, give me a call at 1-800-684-3110. This is the end of the week and always an important time to support the work of the ACLJ if you can. We've had an amazing month so far. This hasn't been one of our big special months or our matching challenges. This has just been you guys showing up and I really appreciate that. When we get back though, we're going to have Mike Pompeo and then it's just me and Will and you for the rest of the hour. We do a second half hour of this show and you may not get that on your local station. Know that we're always broadcasting live from 12:00 to 1:00 PM Eastern time on aclj.org, YouTube, Rumble, Facebook. We are there. A lot of you are watching right now and not a lot of you are calling. We've got phone lines open for you folks. All of them. Be honest. More people are watching this show right now than have watched this week, but none of you are picking up the phone. Do you want us to keep going through these articles of impeachment? I'm also going to make this your last call to tell me one way or the other. I know what Secretary Pompeo wants, but I see some activity in the chat.
Will Haynes: Here's also the thing. If you don't call in, we're going to keep doing the impeachment articles. So that's up to you.
Logan Sekulow: And I'm going to just keep reading the Roman numerals out but like by the letter. X, III, X, I.
Will Haynes: There's no three, Logan.
Logan Sekulow: There's a three. We'll be right back.
Guest (Male): For decades now, the ACLJ has been on the front lines protecting your freedom, defending your rights in court, in Congress, and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member, thank you. And if you're not, well, this is the perfect time to stand with us at aclj.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work. Become a member today at aclj.org. Welcome back to Sekulow. Mike Pompeo is joining us right now and phone lines are open for you if you want to give me a call at 1-800-684-3110. We're running through those articles of impeachment if you want us to keep going. Let me know in the chat. We are joined by Secretary Pompeo.
Logan Sekulow: Secretary Pompeo, obviously there is a lot of talk around not only the UN General Assembly happening right now, but you have the meetings between President Trump and Xi Jinping. Everyone seems to be weighing in on what they think President Trump should bring up and what that looks like. How do you assess something like this and even the relationship with China? To me, it is one of the more awkward ones to watch because on one hand, we do an incredible amount of business with China. On the other hand, it seems like we sometimes treat them as a villain and then we're giving them trophies and awards. It's just confusing to the American people.
Mike Pompeo: First of all, it is confusing. It's a very complex, difficult relationship. By the way, sign me up. I don't need to hear the articles of impeachment. If you're looking for a vote, I'm against it. You get a double vote. With respect to the Chinese Communist Party, we have deep economic relationships with them, but we can see we became very dependent and they used that as leverage to do nasty things to the United States of America. General Secretary Xi Jinping is intent upon global hegemony. He wants to first take Taiwan and the Pacific. We need to make sure that we do all the things necessary to protect the United States of America from all of the things that they do. Not the least of which is that today, as we sit here, they are supporting the Iranian regime and providing them with dual-use technologies, satellite imagery, many things that are putting our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines at risk. That's just unacceptable and I'm confident President Trump has told him that and I hope that General Secretary Xi Jinping will conform to that.
Will Haynes: Mr. Secretary, I think this is a unique opportunity for our audience. This is a week where you've had the UN General Assembly as well as a state visit from China that has had all of this. As someone who was the former Secretary of State, what kind of work goes into this week? Obviously, a lot of work. But what does this week look like? It is both the two biggest events that a State Department, that the diplomatic corps could be facing, and they're at the exact same time this week. It's been wild to watch and we've obviously covered a lot of it. From your perspective, knowing all the work that goes into that, knowing all of the minute details that you have to ensure on both ends of this, what do you think it's like?
Mike Pompeo: That's a great question. It's crazy busy and lots of preparation goes into helping the President be successful this week, both with his visits here in Washington, D.C. with the leader of China as well as all the meetings. He was in New York City for maybe 36 hours or so and would have had dozens of meetings during that time. You have to help get him and his team ready for that. Then there's everybody and their brother in town who wants to spend five minutes with America's Secretary of State. I'm sure Secretary Rubio did his best to meet all of them because you have the opportunity to get a lot done in a very short time and you don't have to get on an airplane and go 14 hours to do that. It was always a very chaotic week but also a productive one when I was serving as Secretary of State.
Will Haynes: I want to go back to the real work that's been going on this week. We did see at the beginning, right before the UN General Assembly, the announcement that there was this agreement with Denmark and Greenland. The US would have more influence over the security of Greenland and there would be some new bases. Obviously, this was a play right before the UN General Assembly so they could have a signing ceremony, but also before China came to meet with the President. This shows that even behind the scenes, there is work going on to continue to posture the United States in a way that can keep the American people safe and keep the Western world safe as the battle for the Arctic is very real these days. The timing of that, obviously you have to get there and get things done, but we've seen since this new administration the way that Venezuela has been changed completely, the Panama Canal, and then this new Greenland move. Are all of these things that the President has stacked up as real national security victories for the United States? Do they play in heavily into the discussions and the nature of this state visit with China?
Mike Pompeo: 100%. All of those things that you've described. If you think about how much we have pushed the Chinese Communist Party out of the Western Hemisphere, you identified them. Certainly at the canal in Panama, a big deal when the Chinese controlled both sides of the canal and had all the operating capabilities there. Now the Chinese ability to operate inside of Venezuela is enormously reduced. People have pooh-poohed this agreement with Greenland. I've had a chance to see many of the details there. This is really a step forward, a really good thing for the United States of America. It will turn out to be good for the people of Greenland and Denmark as well and for NATO. For the United States of America, we now have the capacity and the duration and the scope to do the necessary things there to protect the United States from threats from the north. These are all big victories and Xi Jinping would have seen that the story he tells about an America that is weak and without power, incapable of accomplishing things because it's just making people mad. We have used America's presidential power and diplomatic power in a way that's delivered really good outcomes that benefit the United States and have real costs for the Chinese Communist Party.
Logan Sekulow: I don't want to let you go, Secretary Pompeo, until we talk about Iran for a second. I feel like we can't have you on each week without there being some sort of update. The awkwardness that was happening at the UN General Assembly when you have the Iranian regime leaders and their representatives here. You have all of this theater happening, whether it is meeting with the Iranian delegation. You have Danny Danon from Israel trying to give a Starlink and being turned down in this viral video moment. You had an awkward interview with Bret Baier as he talked to the Iranian leadership, getting nothing out of him, getting what you'd expect. He said that the Ayatollah's doing fine. Just very generic answers. You didn't really get a whole lot. That relationship, on our own soil, has to be a very interesting one to play off of. Just the awkwardness of being at war and meeting with them and having these big summits.
Mike Pompeo: Think about this, one more awkward piece. When diplomats travel to the United States, they receive protection from the State Department's security team. You had American employees of your State Department with your taxpayer dollars protecting Iranian leaders in New York City. It's bizarre to say the least. By the way, the very Iranian leaders who are still trying to kill me were protected. Go figure. Some of this is theater, but some of this is really a chance to message the world. What Prime Minister Netanyahu delivered yesterday reminded everybody that genocide is not taking place by the Israelis there in the Middle East. I think that was an important message for him to communicate to the whole world. Then we did see the Iranian leadership show up and just lie bold-facedly in the interview. They said the Ayatollah's fine and they don't want nuclear weapons. Neither of those statements is likely to be true.
Logan Sekulow: Thank you so much, Secretary Pompeo, for joining us. Your insight in this is so important. When people tune into a broadcast, they understand that they get so much out of you having that experience and being able to weigh in independently now. I think it's even more important because you can see what we're able to work on from a much different perspective. Thank you for joining us today. With that, this is going to end our first half hour. Like I said, the second half hour of the broadcast rolls on. We do this show fully live, 12:00 to 1:00 PM Eastern, Monday through Friday. If you don't get us on your local market or if you just want to change it up, you want to see our pretty smiling faces, go to aclj.org, go to YouTube, or Rumble. A lot of you are watching right now and not a lot of you are calling. We've got phone lines open for you folks. All of them. More people are watching this show right now than have watched this week, but none of you are picking up the phone. Do you want us to keep going through these articles of impeachment? I'm also going to make this your last call to tell me one way or the other. I know what Secretary Pompeo wants, but I see some activity in the chat. But here's also the thing: if you don't call in, we're going to keep doing the impeachment articles. So that's up to you. I'm going to just keep reading the Roman numerals out by the letter. We'll be right back.
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